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Re: NEARC-L Digest - 26 Jun 2017 to 27 Jun 2017 (#2017-71)

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"James F. Palmer" <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:28:29 -0400

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Thank you Joy, that was my reading also. Jim Palmer



> There is 1 message totaling 742 lines in this issue.

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> Topics of the day:

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>   1. FW: [GISNY-L] Geospatial Data Act of 2017

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> Date:    Tue, 27 Jun 2017 18:19:40 -0400

> From:    Joy Cytryn <[log in to unmask]>

> Subject: FW: [GISNY-L] Geospatial Data Act of 2017

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> From: Geo-L [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jochen Albrecht

> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 12:42 PM

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> Subject: Re: [GISNY-L] Geospatial Data Act of 2017

>

> I am sorry to say, Cheryl, that your assertion is as wrong as the statement on the NSGIC website <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nsgic.memberclicks.net_geospatial-2Ddata-2Dact-2Dsets-2Dtable&d=DwMFaQ&c=mRWFL96tuqj9V0Jjj4h40ddo0XsmttALwKjAEOCyUjY&r=BXic03Lid7BOMUoPApXyVlkvp7gU2yUmZr9CT1Bpzvw&m=9zbe4Au7JES7jkHK69YChmzEtixOG4tqEjuCVeOsKFk&s=4j__n9KYwbjAPd5RT6iGSae1_bYqJicc22aZPlvVxOI&e=> , Specifically, Cy's claim that "There simply is no change to professional licensing requirements and no expansion of the Brooks Act or other changes to the federal procurement process in the Geospatial Data Act." and that "Section 2(5)(C)(i) of the Geospatial Data Act lists the geospatial activities that do not require a licensed professional and subsection (iii) lists the geospatial activities that do" are contradicted by the very text of the bill <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.congress.gov_bill_115th-2Dcongress_senate-2Dbill_1253_text&d=DwMFaQ&c=mRWFL96tuqj9V0Jjj4h40ddo0XsmttALwKjAEOCyUjY&r=BXic03Lid7BOMUoPApXyVlkvp7gU2yUmZr9CT1Bpzvw&m=9zbe4Au7JES7jkHK69YChmzEtixOG4tqEjuCVeOsKFk&s=c5-2Q8d81wmgLfKja5J7KojZMpwvxuC5Cm0FSFpkwz4&e=> .

>

> The only exclusion of what the bill covers is listed in Sec 2 (5) (D) as geospatial activities of an Indian tribe. Section 2 (5) (C) (ii) and (iii) put data collected by surveyors on the same footing as any information relating to data including "a survey, map, chart, geographic information system, remotely sensed image or data".

> Contrary to the NSGIC web page, there is no mentioning or specification of "geospatial activities that do not require a licensed professional and subsection (iii) lists the geospatial activities that do".

> I know Cy well and have worked with him for years amicably but his unqualified endorsement of this proposed bill is deeply troubling. I fully support the AAG's position on this matter and intend to use my roles within URISA and the GISCI to do everything I can to defeat this bill in the way it is currently written because it misuses the GAO report to serve the interests of a minority of GIS professionals, specifically licensed surveyors, photogrammetrists, hydrographers, and geodesists.

>

> My call to every non-licensed but certified GIS professional on this list is to please read the text of the bill <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.congress.gov_bill_115th-2Dcongress_senate-2Dbill_1253_text&d=DwMFaQ&c=mRWFL96tuqj9V0Jjj4h40ddo0XsmttALwKjAEOCyUjY&r=BXic03Lid7BOMUoPApXyVlkvp7gU2yUmZr9CT1Bpzvw&m=9zbe4Au7JES7jkHK69YChmzEtixOG4tqEjuCVeOsKFk&s=c5-2Q8d81wmgLfKja5J7KojZMpwvxuC5Cm0FSFpkwz4&e=>  and see for yourself what an incredible threat to your livelihood it is. NSGIC represents state GIS organizations, who like large consultancies are less affected because they do have licensed professional among their staff. But smaller, enterprises and in particular individual GIS professionals have to fear this proposed bill.

> Cheers, (but not cheerfully)

>       Jochen

>

> Dr. Jochen Albrecht

> Computational and Theoretical Geography

> Hunter College CUNY

> 695 Park Avenue

> New York, NY 10065

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> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Benjamin, Cheryl (ITS) <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hello Joy,

> Yes, there has been much discussion about the Geospatial Data Act in the national GIS community.  In particular, the National States Geographic Information Council (NSGIC) has been a proponent of this legislation for a variety of reasons, many of which you can read about in the NSGIC blog posted at https://nsgic.memberclicks.net/geospatial-data-act-sets-table <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nsgic.memberclicks.net_geospatial-2Ddata-2Dact-2Dsets-2Dtable&d=DwMFaQ&c=mRWFL96tuqj9V0Jjj4h40ddo0XsmttALwKjAEOCyUjY&r=BXic03Lid7BOMUoPApXyVlkvp7gU2yUmZr9CT1Bpzvw&m=9zbe4Au7JES7jkHK69YChmzEtixOG4tqEjuCVeOsKFk&s=4j__n9KYwbjAPd5RT6iGSae1_bYqJicc22aZPlvVxOI&e=> .

> I invite you and the NYS GIS community to read this post as it helps to clear up some potential misconceptions about the legislation. It is important to note that this legislation does not change professional licensing requirements and does not­ expand the Brooks Act or make changes to the federal procurement process. It focuses on improving federal geospatial activities.  Details on this are provided in the NSGIC blog. I encourage you to also read the referenced GAO review and share the NSGIC blog link with others. Twitter users should follow @NSGIC to keep up to date on this and other national geospatial items of interest.

> Respectfully,

> Cheryl Benjamin

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