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While this debate may indeed be far down the list of important debates we should be having in 2016, I think there is nevertheless something irksome about these particular posts of Matt's, and this is not the first round of complaints about them on NEARC-L. If these were completely (as opposed to maybe only partially) sincere attempts to stimulate discussion in the NEARC community, they would simply be posted in full to NEARC-L, where this esteemed group could carry on the discussion on our own turf (and terms); instead, they are merely links to posts on a commercial website, with vague teasers that seem to be modeled on the link-bait you find littering the commercial web. While the topics themselves may be important, and the desire to foster discussion may be sincere, it's hard to see their appearance on NEARC-L as anything other than self-serving attempts to drive traffic (IMHO). Chris On 3/9/2016 3:03 PM, Thad Dymkowski wrote: > /So, if … “//The list can be used for /*/non-commercial/*///purposes > including posting announcements about meetings, seminars and > conferences, raising questions about data availability, finding GIS > applications, etc.” where does the debate over what content is > appropriate and not appropriate fit into that? Just curious… because > while this may seem fascinating to those participating in the debate, > I find it quite lackluster, petty, and pointless… just my humble > opinion… / > > / / > > / / > > *Kind regards,* > > * * > > *Thad* > > * * > > * * > > *Thad Dymkowski, GISP* > > GIS Manager > > cid:[log in to unmask] > > > > PRIME3SG: the *Technology* division of PRIME AE Group, Inc. > > 55 Capital Blvd. | 2^nd Floor | Rocky Hill, Connecticut 06067 > > P: 860 436 5600 | C: 860 657 6108 | [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>_ > > > > Connecting. Creating. Conserving. *Community.* > > www.prime3sg.com <http://www.prime3sg.com/> > > / / > > *From:*Northeast Arc Users Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > *On Behalf Of *Scott, Leon > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 09, 2016 2:47 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Just another Gorilla Marketing GIS blog post > > > > Your blog is currently closed for comment. Perhaps opening that up > would be a means to have the conversation you are seeking to have. > > > > Leon > > > > > > *From:*Northeast Arc Users Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > *On Behalf Of *Matt Sheehan > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 09, 2016 2:40 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > *Subject:* Re: Just another Gorilla Marketing GIS blog post > > > > Apart from being hosted on our company web site, I'm struggling to see > how this is a commercial blog post. As a 20 year veteran of GIS, given > today's changes if there has ever been a time we all need to share: > this is it. Its certainly not my intention to upset anybody. And I > apologies if that has been the case here. I would ask though, if a > mailing list like NEARC is not a good place for these types of > conversations where is? > > > > -Matt > > > > On 9 March 2016 at 12:16, Brian Cooperman <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > Completely agree with Roy. What these e-mails on the NEARC list > amounts to advertising. 600 words on a company blog is not pithy > commentary on our industry; its a thinly veiled attempt to drive > traffic to your commercial enterprise. > > > > @Matt, if you can't tell, Brett's most recent e-mail (on the 4th) > reiterating the rules of this list - as a forum for non-commercial > purposes - were directed primarily at *you; *there have been no > other offenders of this policy in recent memory as other e-mails > have been job postings, actual user questions, and e-mail based > industry discussion. Please stop spamming this list. > > > > If you are so concerned about maintaining a connection to your > readers and truly believe your blog is valuable divorced from your > company, host it elsewhere and set up an RSS feed. > > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Roy Apostle <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > Gosh, these are so annoying. If you are going to spam the > NEARC page, please at least get the technique name right. > > > > It's guerrilla marketing. > > > > Roy > > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Justin Jobin > <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > I agree, I enjoy reading them...usually very applicable > topics. > > Sent from Outlook Mobile <http://aka.ms/xp9y6l> > > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 10:49 AM -0800, "Matt Sheehan" > <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > I sometimes share our blog posts with GIS mailing lists. > Google analytics reports crazy spikes on days I share > (I’ll admit to revisiting often over the day to see the > number of hits). Why share with these groups: to sell? > Nope. To start conversations! ..... > > > > Read on (I dare you): > > > > http://www.webmapsolutions.com/gorilla-marketing-gis-blog-post > > > > *Matt Sheehan | WebMapSolutions* > > Mobile: 801-733-0723 <tel:801-733-0723> | > Email:[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list (NEARC-L) is an unmoderated discussion list for > all NEARC Users. > > If you no longer wish to receive e-mail from this list, > you can remove yourself by going to > http://s.uconn.edu/nearcsubscribe. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list (NEARC-L) is an unmoderated discussion list for > all NEARC Users. > > If you no longer wish to receive e-mail from this list, > you can remove yourself by going to > http://s.uconn.edu/nearcsubscribe. > > > > > > -- > > Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Phone: 908-770-4625 <tel:908-770-4625> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list (NEARC-L) is an unmoderated discussion list for all > NEARC Users. > > If you no longer wish to receive e-mail from this list, you > can remove yourself by going to > http://s.uconn.edu/nearcsubscribe. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list (NEARC-L) is an unmoderated discussion list for all > NEARC Users. > > If you no longer wish to receive e-mail from this list, you can > remove yourself by going to http://s.uconn.edu/nearcsubscribe. > > > > > > -- > > *Matt Sheehan | WebMapSolutions* > > Mobile: 801-733-0723 | Email:[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list (NEARC-L) is an unmoderated discussion list for all NEARC > Users. > > If you no longer wish to receive e-mail from this list, you can remove > yourself by going to http://s.uconn.edu/nearcsubscribe. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list (NEARC-L) is an unmoderated discussion list for all NEARC > Users. > > If you no longer wish to receive e-mail from this list, you can remove > yourself by going to http://s.uconn.edu/nearcsubscribe. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list (NEARC-L) is an unmoderated discussion list for all NEARC > Users. > > If you no longer wish to receive e-mail from this list, you can remove > yourself by going to http://s.uconn.edu/nearcsubscribe. > -- Chris Duncan, Ph.D. President, GISmatters [log in to unmask] http://www.gismatters.com/ http://www.allterraindigital.com/ http://www.plugandplaymaps.com/ Tel: +1 413.549.2052 Fax: +1 413.658.0346 1 Tuckerman Ln Amherst, MA 01002 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list (NEARC-L) is an unmoderated discussion list for all NEARC Users. 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