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Thank you Leslie for setting up the survey!  It was actually what i
wanted to do to begin with, but I wasn't sure how open people would be to
it, and maybe there was already a resource out there that I wasn't aware
of.  While I work at UNH, I don't actually teach, but I do work with
students on occasion, and they've been asking this question.  I've always
worked in academia, so I'm not sure what to tell them.  I don't want my
particular biases or opinions to influence my answer.



*Christina Herrick*
Research Scientist

V: 603.862.2639 | F: 603.862.0188


*University of New Hampshire*
*Institute for the Study of Earth, Oceans, and Space*
*Earth Systems Research Center*
Morse Hall, 8 College Road
Durham, NH 03824



*Christina Herrick*
Research Scientist

V: 603.862.2639 | F: 603.862.0188


*University of New Hampshire*
*Institute for the Study of Earth, Oceans, and Space*
*Earth Systems Research Center*
Morse Hall, 8 College Road
Durham, NH 03824

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Jarlath P.M. O'Neil-Dunne <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Learning a major software package may open you up to more jobs, but being
> good with an obscure package might make you a top candidate for the job you
> really want. ArcGIS may land you 30 job interviews, but get you no jobs
> whereas having experience with some rather obscure lidar package will get
> you one interview and the job.
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> The most important thing I instill in my students is my general brilliance
> in the field of geospatial technology. I want them to leave my class
> thinking “I may not have learned anything, but Jarlath is a genius.”
> (sarcasm)
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> --
>
> *Jarlath O’Neil-Dunne*
>
> *University of Vermont | Spatial Analysis Lab*
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> *Twitter: @jarlathond*
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> *Blog: **http://letters-sal.blogspot.com/*
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> *From:* Northeast Arc Users Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On
> Behalf Of *Jessie Braden
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2016 9:57 AM
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> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: GIS user data
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> Leslie, thank you so much for setting up this survey. As an educator, I’m
> very curious to see the results and I hope you can parse them by industry.
> I often wonder if gov agencies still strongly prefer ArcGIS whereas a
> start-up might prefer QGIS, etc. I also agree with Jarlath that things will
> change rapidly and focusing on one thing is helpful. But, students always
> ask for guidance in making that choice (ex, we teach both ArcGIS and QGIS
> here) and I try to help them decide based on their career goals – perhaps
> this survey will enlighten me on a different approach.
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> Thank you,
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> Jessie Braden
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> *Jessie Braden *| Director, SAVI
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> *PRATT INSTITUTE*
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> Spatial Analysis and Visualization Initiative
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> *From:* Northeast Arc Users Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Pelch, Leslie
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:46 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: GIS user data
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>
> I agree 100% with Jarlath, but it also occurs to me to ask the members of
> the listserv Christina’s real question. As an employer – do you care
> greatly whether a potential employee has geospatial software experience
> with a particular product or just enough experience to apply their
> knowledge and learn any product? Since I have gotten in trouble before for
> asking questions that end up causing too much email traffic…I will make a
> simple survey monkey to collect some responses…..And then report back the
> results.
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> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/LMD9VCS
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> LP
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> *Please Note New Email : **[log in to unmask]*
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> ___________________________________
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> Vermont Center for Geographic Information
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> *From:* Northeast Arc Users Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Jarlath P.M. O'Neil-Dunne
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:17 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: GIS user data
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> Honestly I don’t think it matters, whatever you teach it will have
> radically changed in 2-3 years. The software packages have such similar
> capabilities, the challenge is not overloading students with so many
> different geospatial solutions that they spend more time learning the
> buttonology than doing things.
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> *--*
>
> *Jarlath O’Neil-Dunne*
>
> *University of Vermont | Spatial Analysis Lab*
>
> *Twitter: @jarlathond*
>
> *Blog: **http://letters-sal.blogspot.com/*
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> *From: *Northeast Arc Users Group <[log in to unmask]> on behalf
> of Christina Herrick <[log in to unmask]>
> *Reply-To: *Christina Herrick <[log in to unmask]>
> *Date: *Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 1:53 PM
> *To: *"[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject: *GIS user data
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>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know if there are data available (maybe in a past survey) that
> summarizes GIS use by industry?  I know that NH GRANIT conducted a survey
> 10 years ago about GIS use in the state, but that survey only asked if
> towns used GIS and how often.
>
>
>
> Specifically, I'm interested to know GIS users who use proprietary
> software such as Esri products, those who use open software like QGIS, and
> those in between.  Industry information would be a bonus-- are you a
> government employee, non-profit, academic, etc.
>
>
>
> This stems from a discussion here on campus regarding students and their
> attractiveness to future employers based on the types of GIS they're
> familiar with.  We've heard extreme arguments on both sides regarding which
> GIS is "best".  It would be nice to be able to back those opinions with
> fact.
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone
>
>
>
> *Christina Herrick*
>
> Research Scientist
>
> V: 603.862.2639 | F: 603.862.0188
>
> *University of New Hampshire*
>
> *Institute for the Study of Earth, Oceans, and Space*
>
> *Earth Systems Research Center*
>
> Morse Hall, 8 College Road
>
> Durham, NH 03824
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